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Great podcasts have loyal communities: the people who show up for every epi=
sode drop, create a dedicated group chat with their friends, or scour the i=
nternet looking for takes. We=E2=80=99ve worked directly with hundreds of p=
odcast creators to build tools that allow them to own and grow these commun=
ities on Substack=E2=80=94whether or not they=E2=80=99re using the platform=
 as a primary hub for distribution. An email list of people who=E2=80=99ve =
opted in to hear from you is an asset that doesn=E2=80=99t disappear when a=
 recommendation algorithm changes, a deal expires, or you want to try somet=
hing new.
Episodes go directly to your subscribers=E2=80=99 inboxes and can be distri=
buted to other podcast platforms via RSS, and you can record natively=E2=80=
=94including with remote guests=E2=80=94using Substack Recording Studio [ h=
ttps://substack.com/redirect/2f5746ee-9290-44f2-ada7-c5c13a7d8731?j=3DeyJ1I=
joiNGl3b2U2In0.sVDxRtmZ85v8kfdamY0krRXGMy3p768BWtuZifRB-Zs ]. Chat [ https:=
//substack.com/redirect/9a7c2145-2607-4b14-875b-30f61c340529?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNG=
l3b2U2In0.sVDxRtmZ85v8kfdamY0krRXGMy3p768BWtuZifRB-Zs ] functions like a gr=
oup chat for your listeners, a dedicated place for your audience to talk to=
 each other and to you between episodes. Live video [ https://substack.com/=
redirect/d3485324-8b89-4cb7-b677-ac475c0e1e10?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNGl3b2U2In0.sVDxR=
tmZ85v8kfdamY0krRXGMy3p768BWtuZifRB-Zs ] lets you engage, react, or connect=
 in real time. Notes [ https://substack.com/redirect/1aca4166-1b74-4c0c-bc9=
8-768841404fd3?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNGl3b2U2In0.sVDxRtmZ85v8kfdamY0krRXGMy3p768BWtuZ=
ifRB-Zs ], Substack=E2=80=99s short-form feed, is where new listeners find =
you: post a clip, a quick thought, or a moment from a recent episode, and i=
t surfaces to people who aren=E2=80=99t subscribed yet. The Substack networ=
k drives more than 50% of all subscriptions on the platform, meaning growth=
 is built in when you post.
In partnership with the Signal Awards [ https://substack.com/redirect/71ae0=
eaa-0dfc-4d66-9b7d-3473d3f326d6?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNGl3b2U2In0.sVDxRtmZ85v8kfdamY0=
krRXGMy3p768BWtuZifRB-Zs ], we recently spoke with Biz Sherbert , a host of=
 Nymphet Alumni , and Richard Johnson  from Split Zone Duo  about how they =
use Substack to host their shows, distribute episodes, and build community =
through Chat, Notes, and more.
=E2=80=9CWe=E2=80=99ll throw on the Substack live chat feature on a Saturda=
y and interact with our people there,=E2=80=9D Richard said about using Cha=
t on game days. =E2=80=9C=E2=80=9DIt helps to know that we=E2=80=99re being=
 supported by like-minded community.=E2=80=9D Once Nymphet Alumni  started =
building its community, Biz said, it took on a life of its own: =E2=80=9CTh=
e community is self-sustaining. People do meetups and stuff all the time th=
at have nothing to do with us. That=E2=80=99s one of the beautiful things a=
bout making something like this=E2=80=94it takes on its own life without yo=
u.=E2=80=9D
There are a lot of ways to think about building and growing your podcast co=
mmunity on Substack. Here are three models we see working well:
A lightweight companion and fan community
Use your Substack publication to send episodes directly to your listeners=
=E2=80=99 inboxes. To take it a step further, you can add a lightweight com=
panion newsletter and a chat where your audience can find each other. Compa=
nion posts don=E2=80=99t have to be elaborate: a weekly recap, links to thi=
ngs mentioned on the pod, or a short note from a producer or the host can a=
ll work. In the simplest version, the chat can be set up as fan-to-fan, so =
you don=E2=80=99t have to moderate it.
This is a good starting point for podcasters who aren=E2=80=99t ready to la=
unch a paid tier but want to start building an owned audience. It=E2=80=99s=
 free to run, and it builds daily engagement quickly. The people who show u=
p here are dedicated fans who are likely to convert to paying subscribers, =
should you choose to launch a paid tier=E2=80=94and now you can reach them =
directly whenever you need.
Case study: Giggly Squad
Giggly Squad =E2=80=99s Substack is where their show lives between episodes=
=2E Hosts Hannah Berner and Paige DeSor=
bo use their newsletter for weekly rou=
ndups of what they=E2=80=99re wearing, watching, and obsessing over and the=
ir Chat as a dedicated space for the community to talk to each other.
Bonus paid content layered on top
Use Substack to add a paid tier to your podcast that includes bonus content=
, like behind-the-scenes extras, episode research, or cutting-room-floor ma=
terial from your conversations with a guest. The additional material might =
be an extra 20 minutes or so of more personal and candid conversation, with=
 the option to take listener questions.=20
A paid bonus model structurally changes the relationship with your listener=
s. Paying subscribers aren=E2=80=99t buying a product; they=E2=80=99re supp=
orting your work. That=E2=80=99s a different dynamic than ad revenue, and i=
t tends to create deeper loyalty.
Case study: Wiser Than Me and Bialik Breakdown
Julia Louis-Dreyfus  sends her Wiser Than Me  subscribers exclusive backgro=
und notes and research behind each episode, like a deep dive on actress Gle=
nn Close [ https://substack.com/redirect/c33ff708-9f3c-4f09-a21b-7baac25777=
5c?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNGl3b2U2In0.sVDxRtmZ85v8kfdamY0krRXGMy3p768BWtuZifRB-Zs ] th=
at supplemented their episode together. It=E2=80=99s context that didn=E2=
=80=99t make it into the show itself, delivered directly to the people who =
want to go deeper.
Mayim Bialik  uses her Substack to share a host of extras, like bonus clips=
, exclusive letters, and live content, for Mayim Bialik's Breakdown  subscr=
ibers.
A full multimedia content hub=20
Use Substack as the comprehensive home base for distribution and community =
for your show. Send your episodes directly to subscriber inboxes, and distr=
ibute them automatically to YouTube, or to Spotify and Apple Podcasts throu=
gh RSS. Offer bonus drops, extended cuts, AMAs, essays, lives, and collabs =
with other creators. It=E2=80=99s the whole world of your show, in one plac=
e, with community and network growth built in. For many creators, subscript=
ion revenue at this level becomes more lucrative than ads. But the more dur=
able thing it creates is a self-sustaining community.=20
Case study: Pantsuit Politics and Diabolical Lies
Pantsuit Politics  publishes four or more premium episodes a week, distribu=
ting directly through Substack. They also send a newsletter, host regular l=
ive sessions, and keep an active chat for their community.
Diabolical Lies  uses Substack as their full distribution channel, paywalli=
ng their deeply researched, hour-plus episodes that drop twice a month. Sub=
scription revenue has enabled them to do fewer episodes and go deeper on ea=
ch one, a model that works because their subscriber community is so engaged=
 in the work and each other.
However you decide to set up your community and your show on Substack, the =
underlying logic is the same: your audience wants somewhere to be, and it=
=E2=80=99s to your benefit to be able to reach them directly. At the Signal=
 Awards event, Biz and Richard shared some of what they=E2=80=99ve learned =
from building their shows and finding new audiences on Substack.
Biz on starting a show from zero: =E2=80=9C[At first] we didn=E2=80=99t hav=
e an audience. I had a little bit of a following online, but the show was v=
ery much started from scratch. I think people really connect to that=E2=80=
=94listening to a show from the beginning when your mics are so bad and you=
 really don=E2=80=99t know how to do literally anything. Starting from scra=
tch kind of builds its own specific connection.=E2=80=9D
Richard on finding new subscribers through Notes: =E2=80=9CNotes is, for us=
, the best and most direct connection to what we do. Our episodes basically=
 automatically go out as Notes posts. People can find it, and it becomes an=
other means of discoverability.=E2=80=9D
Biz on their between-episodes newsletter offering: =E2=80=9C=E2=80=8APeople=
 really like to know what you=E2=80=99re up to. Our podcast takes a lot of =
work to make, but people in the community love to know what book you=E2=80=
=99re reading or a song you really like. [A companion newsletter] is a real=
ly nice way to create something regular for your audience that=E2=80=99s no=
t so intensive.=E2=80=9D
Richard on why community converts: =E2=80=9CPeople are paying for you to ke=
ep doing this because they understand that you have this other thing that t=
akes so much time, effort, energy. It helps us to know that we=E2=80=99re b=
eing supported by a like-minded community of people. And frankly, I think i=
f CBS had a subscription for $10 a month, I don=E2=80=99t know if people wo=
uld want to pay for that. But people do want to pay for [me] and Alex [Kirs=
hner] at $10 a month because it is a touchstone. And they know where [the m=
oney is] going. And I think that=E2=80=99s really important.=E2=80=9D
Biz on world-building around a show: =E2=80=9CYou want to make a universe. =
The word =E2=80=98alumni=E2=80=99 is in [our name], so we ended up making t=
his fake university called the Nymphet Alumni Institute of Continuing Educa=
tion on Fashion and Culture. And then all of our tiers would be like =E2=80=
=98PhD in Beauty Pseudoscience.=E2=80=99 =E2=80=8AAnd then our written week=
ly newsletter is called Course Materials, and it=E2=80=99s like a bibliogra=
phy of everything we=E2=80=99re consuming that week. I think [Substack] can=
 be a place to make a fantastic world that is really fun. I think it=E2=80=
=99s really gratifying as a creator as well.=E2=80=9D=20
Podcast success is often built on intimacy=E2=80=94the sense that someone i=
s talking to you specifically, that you=E2=80=99re in on something special.=
 Regardless of how you set up your community, Substack is where that feelin=
g finds a home, and where built-in engagement tools and network growth make=
 sure more people find it.
The Signal Awards recognize podcasts that define culture. The early entry d=
eadline for the 2026 awards is May 8. Enter your podcast for consideration =
[ https://substack.com/redirect/d72a0000-21ff-46c6-bdc2-d06264bebed3?j=3Dey=
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}
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}
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}
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@media screen and (max-width: 650px) {
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}
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}
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}
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}
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}
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}
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}
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}
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}
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}
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}
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}
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}
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}
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}
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}
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}
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}
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r .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),background-color .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22=
,1),box-shadow .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),border .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,=
=2E22,1),border-radius .25scubic-bezier=
(.19,1,.22,1),opacity .25scubic-bezier=
(.19,1,.22,1),filter .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),stroke .25scubic-bezier(=
=2E19,1,.22,1),transform .25scubic-bezi=
er(.19,1,.22,1),scale .25scubic-bezier=
(.19,1,.22,1),outline .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1);margin: 0 -.125em;paddi=
ng: 0 .125em .0625em;text-decoration: none;"><a href=3D"https://open.substa=
ck.com/users/329809226-nymphet-alumni?utm_source=3Dmentions" style=3D"color=
: #FF6719;text-decoration: none;-webkit-text-decoration: none;">Nymphet Alu=
mni</a></span><span> started building its community, Biz said, it took on a=
 life of its own: &#8220;The community is self-sustaining. People do meetup=
s and stuff all the time that have nothing to do with us. That&#8217;s one =
of the beautiful things about making something like this&#8212;it takes on =
its own life without you.&#8221;</span></p></blockquote><p style=3D"margin:=
 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">There =
are a lot of ways to think about building and growing your podcast communit=
y on Substack. Here are three models we see working well:</p><div style=3D"=
font-size: 16px;line-height: 26px;"><hr style=3D"margin: 32px 0;padding: 0;=
height: 1px;background: rgb(0,0,0,.1);border: none;"></div><h2 class=3D"hea=
der-anchor-post" style=3D"position: relative;font-family: 'SF Pro Display',=
-apple-system-headline,system-ui,-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,'Segoe UI=
',Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,'Apple Color Emoji','Segoe UI Emoji','S=
egoe UI Symbol';font-weight: bold;-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;-moz-=
osx-font-smoothing: antialiased;-webkit-appearance: optimizelegibility;-moz=
-appearance: optimizelegibility;appearance: optimizelegibility;margin: 1em =
0 0.625em 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 1.16em;font-size: 1.625em;"><=
strong>A lightweight companion and fan community</strong></h2><p style=3D"m=
argin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">=
Use your Substack publication to send episodes directly to your listeners&#=
8217; inboxes. To take it a step further, you can add a lightweight compani=
on newsletter and a chat where your audience can find each other. Companion=
 posts don&#8217;t have to be elaborate: a weekly recap, links to things me=
ntioned on the pod, or a short note from a producer or the host can all wor=
k. In the simplest version, the chat can be set up as fan-to-fan, so you do=
n&#8217;t have to moderate it.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb=
(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">This is a good starting poin=
t for podcasters who aren&#8217;t ready to launch a paid tier but want to s=
tart building an owned audience. It&#8217;s free to run, and it builds dail=
y engagement quickly. The people who show up here are dedicated fans who ar=
e likely to convert to paying subscribers, should you choose to launch a pa=
id tier&#8212;and now you can reach them directly whenever you need.</p><p =
style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-siz=
e: 16px;"><strong>Case study: Giggly Squad</strong></p><p style=3D"margin: =
0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;"><span c=
lass=3D"mention-pnpTE1 mentionStatic-liMklk" data-component-name=3D"Mention=
Static" style=3D"white-space: nowrap;cursor: pointer;color: #FF6719;border-=
radius: 4px;transition: color .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),background-colo=
r .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),box-shadow .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),bo=
rder .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),border-radius .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22=
,1),opacity .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),filter .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22=
,1),stroke .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),transform .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.=
22,1),scale .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),outline .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.2=
2,1);margin: 0 -.125em;padding: 0 .125em .0625em;text-decoration: none;"><a=
 href=3D"https://open.substack.com/users/381348397-giggly-squad?utm_source=
=3Dmentions" style=3D"color: #FF6719;text-decoration: none;-webkit-text-dec=
oration: none;">Giggly Squad</a></span><span>&#8217;s Substack is where the=
ir show lives between episodes. Hosts Hannah Berner and Paige DeSorbo use t=
heir newsletter for weekly roundups of what they&#8217;re wearing, watching=
, and obsessing over and their Chat as a dedicated space for the community =
to talk to each other.</span></p><div class=3D"captioned-image-container-st=
atic" style=3D"font-size: 16px;line-height: 26px;margin: 32px auto;"><figur=
e style=3D"width: 100%;margin: 0 auto;"><table class=3D"image-wrapper" widt=
h=3D"100%" border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" data-component-=
name=3D"Image2ToDOMStatic" style=3D"mso-padding-alt: 1em 0 1.6em;"><tbody><=
tr><td style=3D"text-align: center;"></td><td class=3D"content" align=3D"le=
ft" width=3D"1456" style=3D"text-align: center;"><a class=3D"image-link" ta=
rget=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://substack.com/redirect/7a017574-1401-4d54-9b=
c2-07882b9ce05a?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNGl3b2U2In0.sVDxRtmZ85v8kfdamY0krRXGMy3p768BWtu=
ZifRB-Zs" style=3D"position: relative;flex-direction: column;align-items: c=
enter;padding: 0;width: auto;height: auto;border: none;text-decoration: non=
e;display: block;margin: 0;"><img class=3D"wide-image" data-attrs=3D"{&quot=
;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images=
/07c10413-c0e3-4446-9f39-b536e59cb715_2000x1294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWaterm=
ark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot=
;height&quot;:942,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot=
;bytes&quot;:864675,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&=
quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:=
true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://=
on.substack.com/i/196007038?img=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amaz=
onaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07c10413-c0e3-4446-9f39-b536e59cb715_2000x129=
4.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;off=
set&quot;:false}" alt=3D"" width=3D"550" height=3D"355.8379120879121" src=
=3D"https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uN7L!,w_1100,c_limit,f_auto,q_a=
uto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaw=
s.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07c10413-c0e3-4446-9f39-b536e59cb715_2000x1294.pn=
g" style=3D"border: none !important;vertical-align: middle;display: block;-=
ms-interpolation-mode: bicubic;height: auto;margin-bottom: 0;width: auto !i=
mportant;max-width: 100% !important;margin: 0 auto;"></a></td><td style=3D"=
text-align: center;"></td></tr></tbody></table></figure></div><div style=3D=
"font-size: 16px;line-height: 26px;"><hr style=3D"margin: 32px 0;padding: 0=
;height: 1px;background: rgb(0,0,0,.1);border: none;"></div><h2 class=3D"he=
ader-anchor-post" style=3D"position: relative;font-family: 'SF Pro Display'=
,-apple-system-headline,system-ui,-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,'Segoe U=
I',Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,'Apple Color Emoji','Segoe UI Emoji','=
Segoe UI Symbol';font-weight: bold;-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;-moz=
-osx-font-smoothing: antialiased;-webkit-appearance: optimizelegibility;-mo=
z-appearance: optimizelegibility;appearance: optimizelegibility;margin: 1em=
 0 0.625em 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 1.16em;font-size: 1.625em;">=
<strong>Bonus paid content layered on top</strong></h2><p style=3D"margin: =
0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Use Sub=
stack to add a paid tier to your podcast that includes bonus content, like =
behind-the-scenes extras, episode research, or cutting-room-floor material =
from your conversations with a guest. The additional material might be an e=
xtra 20 minutes or so of more personal and candid conversation, with the op=
tion to take listener questions. </p><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: =
rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">A paid bonus model struct=
urally changes the relationship with your listeners. Paying subscribers are=
n&#8217;t buying a product; they&#8217;re supporting your work. That&#8217;=
s a different dynamic than ad revenue, and it tends to create deeper loyalt=
y.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px=
;font-size: 16px;"><strong>Case study: Wiser Than Me and Bialik Breakdown</=
strong></p><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height:=
 26px;font-size: 16px;"><span class=3D"mention-pnpTE1 mentionStatic-liMklk"=
 data-component-name=3D"MentionStatic" style=3D"white-space: nowrap;cursor:=
 pointer;color: #FF6719;border-radius: 4px;transition: color .25scubic-bezi=
er(.19,1,.22,1),background-color .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),box-shadow .=
25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),border .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),border-ra=
dius .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),opacity .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),fi=
lter .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),stroke .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),tra=
nsform .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),scale .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),ou=
tline .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1);margin: 0 -.125em;padding: 0 .125em .06=
25em;text-decoration: none;"><a href=3D"https://open.substack.com/users/107=
353832-julia-louis-dreyfus?utm_source=3Dmentions" style=3D"color: #FF6719;t=
ext-decoration: none;-webkit-text-decoration: none;">Julia Louis-Dreyfus</a=
></span><span> sends her </span><span class=3D"mention-pnpTE1 mentionStatic=
-liMklk" data-component-name=3D"MentionStatic" style=3D"white-space: nowrap=
;cursor: pointer;color: #FF6719;border-radius: 4px;transition: color .25scu=
bic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),background-color .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),box-=
shadow .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),border .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),b=
order-radius .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),opacity .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.=
22,1),filter .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),stroke .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.2=
2,1),transform .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),scale .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.=
22,1),outline .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1);margin: 0 -.125em;padding: 0 .1=
25em .0625em;text-decoration: none;"><a href=3D"https://open.substack.com/p=
ub/wiserthanme?utm_source=3Dmentions" style=3D"color: #FF6719;text-decorati=
on: none;-webkit-text-decoration: none;">Wiser Than Me</a></span><span> sub=
scribers exclusive background notes and research behind each episode, like =
</span><a href=3D"https://substack.com/redirect/c33ff708-9f3c-4f09-a21b-7ba=
ac257775c?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNGl3b2U2In0.sVDxRtmZ85v8kfdamY0krRXGMy3p768BWtuZifRB-=
Zs" style=3D"color: rgb(54,55,55);text-decoration: underline;">a deep dive =
on actress Glenn Close</a><span> that supplemented their episode together. =
It&#8217;s context that didn&#8217;t make it into the show itself, delivere=
d directly to the people who want to go deeper.</span></p><p style=3D"margi=
n: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;"><spa=
n class=3D"mention-pnpTE1 mentionStatic-liMklk" data-component-name=3D"Ment=
ionStatic" style=3D"white-space: nowrap;cursor: pointer;color: #FF6719;bord=
er-radius: 4px;transition: color .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),background-c=
olor .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),box-shadow .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1)=
,border .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),border-radius .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,=
=2E22,1),opacity .25scubic-bezier(.19,1=
,.22,1),filter .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,=
=2E22,1),stroke .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,=
=2E22,1),transform .25scubic-bezier(.19,=
1,.22,1),scale .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),outline .25scubic-bezier(.19,1=
,.22,1);margin: 0 -.125em;padding: 0 .125em .0625em;text-decoration: none;"=
><a href=3D"https://open.substack.com/users/185655892-mayim-bialik?utm_sour=
ce=3Dmentions" style=3D"color: #FF6719;text-decoration: none;-webkit-text-d=
ecoration: none;">Mayim Bialik</a></span><span> uses her Substack to share =
a host of extras, like bonus clips, exclusive letters, and live content, fo=
r </span><span class=3D"mention-pnpTE1 mentionStatic-liMklk" data-component=
-name=3D"MentionStatic" style=3D"white-space: nowrap;cursor: pointer;color:=
 #FF6719;border-radius: 4px;transition: color .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1)=
,background-color .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),box-shadow .25scubic-bezier=
(.19,1,.22,1),border .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),border-radius .25scubic-=
bezier(.19,1,.22,1),opacity .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),filter .25scubic-=
bezier(.19,1,.22,1),stroke .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),transform .25scubi=
c-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),scale .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),outline .25scubic=
-bezier(.19,1,.22,1);margin: 0 -.125em;padding: 0 .125em .0625em;text-decor=
ation: none;"><a href=3D"https://open.substack.com/users/169345499-mayim-bi=
aliks-breakdown?utm_source=3Dmentions" style=3D"color: #FF6719;text-decorat=
ion: none;-webkit-text-decoration: none;">Mayim Bialik's Breakdown</a></spa=
n><span> subscribers.</span></p><a class=3D"pencraft pc-display-block pc-pa=
dding-16 pc-reset border-detail-EGrm7T pc-borderRadius-md color-primary-zAB=
azT note-flsrqQ" href=3D"https://substack.com/profile/169345499-mayim-biali=
ks-breakdown/note/c-250545648" data-component-name=3D"EmailCommentEmbed" st=
yle=3D"text-decoration: none;list-style: none;border-radius: 12px;display: =
block;padding: 16px;border: 1px solid rgb(0,0,0,.1);background-color: rgb(2=
55,255,255);margin: 10px auto;color: rgb(54,55,55);"><table role=3D"present=
ation" width=3D"auto" border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" styl=
e=3D"width:100%;"><tbody><tr><td style=3D"vertical-align:top;"><img class=
=3D"custom-css-email-avatar avatar-QIQ5yR" src=3D"https://substackcdn.com/i=
mage/fetch/$s_!skZj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2F=
substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa19f4e8a-e4b9-44f1=
-929f-c682d7b63692_1280x1280.png" style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;border: n=
one;vertical-align: middle;-ms-interpolation-mode: bicubic;max-width: 100%;=
width: 48px;height: 48px;min-width: 48px;min-height: 48px;object-fit: cover=
;margin: 0px;display: inline;border-radius: 50%" width=3D"48" height=3D"48"=
></td><td width=3D"12" style=3D"min-width:12px;"></td><td style=3D"vertical=
-align:top;width:100%;"><table role=3D"presentation" width=3D"auto" border=
=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" style=3D"line-height:1;width:100=
%;"><tbody><tr><td><div class=3D"pencraft pc-reset" style=3D"text-decoratio=
n: unset;list-style: none;font-size: 16px;line-height: 26px;"><div class=3D=
"pencraft pc-reset line-height-20-t4M0El font-text-qe4AeH size-15-Psle70 we=
ight-regular-mUq6Gb reset-IxiVJZ" style=3D"list-style: none;color: unset;fo=
nt-size: 15px;line-height: 20px;text-decoration: unset;margin: 0;font-famil=
y: system-ui,-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,'Segoe UI',Roboto,Helvetica,A=
rial,sans-serif,'Apple Color Emoji','Segoe UI Emoji','Segoe UI Symbol';font=
-weight: 400;"><span class=3D"pencraft pc-reset weight-semibold-uqA4FV rese=
t-IxiVJZ" style=3D"list-style: none;color: unset;text-decoration: unset;mar=
gin: 0;font-weight: 600;">Mayim Bialik's Breakdown</span> <span class=3D"pe=
ncraft pc-reset color-secondary-ls1g8s reset-IxiVJZ" style=3D"list-style: n=
one;text-decoration: unset;color: rgb(119,119,119);margin: 0;">2d</span></d=
iv><div class=3D"pencraft pc-reset line-height-20-t4M0El font-text-qe4AeH s=
ize-15-Psle70 weight-regular-mUq6Gb reset-IxiVJZ" style=3D"list-style: none=
;color: unset;font-size: 15px;line-height: 20px;text-decoration: unset;marg=
in: 0;font-family: system-ui,-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,'Segoe UI',Ro=
boto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,'Apple Color Emoji','Segoe UI Emoji','Segoe=
 UI Symbol';font-weight: 400;">What would you do if your worldview broke in=
 one night?

That&#8217;s the question Dr. Kevin Knuth &#8212; physicist and former NASA=
 research scientist &#8212; had to answer when the evidence began to contra=
dict everything he knew.

His &#8220;flip&#8221; was just the beginning.</div></div></td></tr><tr hei=
ght=3D"12"><td></td></tr><tr><td><table role=3D"presentation" width=3D"100%=
" border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" style=3D"width:100%;"><t=
body><tr><td width=3D"20%"><img src=3D"https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/=
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,119,119);margin: 0;font-size: 12px;line-height: 20px;font-family: system-u=
i,-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,'Segoe UI',Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
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0;margin-left: 4px">3</span></td><td width=3D"20%"><svg class=3D"lucide luc=
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x;"><hr style=3D"margin: 32px 0;padding: 0;height: 1px;background: rgb(0,0,=
0,.1);border: none;"></div><h2 class=3D"header-anchor-post" style=3D"positi=
on: relative;font-family: 'SF Pro Display',-apple-system-headline,system-ui=
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d;-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;-moz-osx-font-smoothing: antialiased;=
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appearance: optimizelegibility;margin: 1em 0 0.625em 0;color: rgb(54,55,55)=
;line-height: 1.16em;font-size: 1.625em;"><strong>A full multimedia content=
 hub </strong></h2><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line=
-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Use Substack as the comprehensive home base=
 for distribution and community for your show. Send your episodes directly =
to subscriber inboxes, and distribute them automatically to YouTube, or to =
Spotify and Apple Podcasts through RSS. Offer bonus drops, extended cuts, A=
MAs, essays, lives, and collabs with other creators. It&#8217;s the whole w=
orld of your show, in one place, with community and network growth built in=
=2E For many creators, subscription rev=
enue at this level becomes more lucrat=
ive than ads. But the more durable thing it creates is a self-sustaining co=
mmunity. </p><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-heigh=
t: 26px;font-size: 16px;"><strong>Case study: Pantsuit Politics and Diaboli=
cal Lies</strong></p><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);li=
ne-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;"><span class=3D"mention-pnpTE1 mentionStat=
ic-liMklk" data-component-name=3D"MentionStatic" style=3D"white-space: nowr=
ap;cursor: pointer;color: #FF6719;border-radius: 4px;transition: color .25s=
cubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),background-color .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),bo=
x-shadow .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),border .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1)=
,border-radius .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),opacity .25scubic-bezier(.19,1=
,.22,1),filter .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),stroke .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,=
=2E22,1),transform .25scubic-bezier(.19=
,1,.22,1),scale .25scubic-bezier(.19,1=
,.22,1),outline .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1);margin: 0 -.125em;padding: 0 =
=2E125em .0625em;text-decoration: none=
;"><a href=3D"https://open.substack.com=
/users/141635740-pantsuit-politics?utm_source=3Dmentions" style=3D"color: #=
FF6719;text-decoration: none;-webkit-text-decoration: none;">Pantsuit Polit=
ics</a></span><span> publishes four or more premium episodes a week, distri=
buting directly through Substack. They also send a newsletter, host regular=
 live sessions, and keep an active chat for their community.</span></p><p s=
tyle=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size=
: 16px;"><span class=3D"mention-pnpTE1 mentionStatic-liMklk" data-component=
-name=3D"MentionStatic" style=3D"white-space: nowrap;cursor: pointer;color:=
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,background-color .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),box-shadow .25scubic-bezier=
(.19,1,.22,1),border .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),border-radius .25scubic-=
bezier(.19,1,.22,1),opacity .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),filter .25scubic-=
bezier(.19,1,.22,1),stroke .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),transform .25scubi=
c-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),scale .25scubic-bezier(.19,1,.22,1),outline .25scubic=
-bezier(.19,1,.22,1);margin: 0 -.125em;padding: 0 .125em .0625em;text-decor=
ation: none;"><a href=3D"https://open.substack.com/users/363123805-diabolic=
al-lies?utm_source=3Dmentions" style=3D"color: #FF6719;text-decoration: non=
e;-webkit-text-decoration: none;">Diabolical Lies</a></span><span> uses Sub=
stack as their full distribution channel, paywalling their deeply researche=
d, hour-plus episodes that drop twice a month. Subscription revenue has ena=
bled them to do fewer episodes and go deeper on each one, a model that work=
s because their subscriber community is so engaged in the work and each oth=
er.</span></p><div class=3D"captioned-image-container-static" style=3D"font=
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ext-align: center;"></td><td class=3D"content" align=3D"left" width=3D"1456=
" style=3D"text-align: center;"><a class=3D"image-link" target=3D"_blank" h=
ref=3D"https://substack.com/redirect/e18aa17f-7b67-4d6e-b6a0-ad3d2a511be3?j=
=3DeyJ1IjoiNGl3b2U2In0.sVDxRtmZ85v8kfdamY0krRXGMy3p768BWtuZifRB-Zs" style=
=3D"position: relative;flex-direction: column;align-items: center;padding: =
0;width: auto;height: auto;border: none;text-decoration: none;display: bloc=
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images%2F6608637a-3458-4960-a4b0-c5008080bcfd_2000x1294.png" style=3D"borde=
r: none !important;vertical-align: middle;display: block;-ms-interpolation-=
mode: bicubic;height: auto;margin-bottom: 0;width: auto !important;max-widt=
h: 100% !important;margin: 0 auto;"></a></td><td style=3D"text-align: cente=
r;"></td></tr></tbody></table><figcaption class=3D"image-caption" style=3D"=
box-sizing: content-box;color: rgb(119,119,119);font-size: 14px;line-height=
: 20px;font-weight: 400;letter-spacing: -.15px;margin-top: 8px;width: 70%;p=
adding-left: 15%;padding-right: 15%;text-align: center;"><em>Pantsuit Polit=
ics keeps their Chat gated to paid subscribers, creating a dedicated space =
where their most invested listeners can connect with each other and the sho=
w.</em></figcaption></figure></div><div style=3D"font-size: 16px;line-heigh=
t: 26px;"><hr style=3D"margin: 32px 0;padding: 0;height: 1px;background: rg=
b(0,0,0,.1);border: none;"></div><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(=
54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">However you decide to set up =
your community and your show on Substack, the underlying logic is the same:=
 your audience wants somewhere to be, and it&#8217;s to your benefit to be =
able to reach them directly. At the Signal Awards event, Biz and Richard sh=
ared some of what they&#8217;ve learned from building their shows and findi=
ng new audiences on Substack.</p><div class=3D"callout-block" data-callout=
=3D"true" style=3D"font-size: 16px;line-height: 26px;background-color: rgb(=
238,238,238);border-radius: 8px;margin: 32px 0;padding: 16px 32px;"><p styl=
e=3D"color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;margin: 8px 0;"=
><strong>Biz on starting a show from zero:</strong><span> &#8220;[At first]=
 we didn&#8217;t have an audience. I had a little bit of a following online=
, but the show was very much started from scratch. I think people really co=
nnect to that&#8212;listening to a show from the beginning when your mics a=
re so bad and you really don&#8217;t know how to do literally anything. Sta=
rting from scratch kind of builds its own specific connection.&#8221;</span=
></p><p style=3D"color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;mar=
gin: 8px 0;"><strong>Richard on finding new subscribers through Notes:</str=
ong><span> &#8220;Notes is, for us, the best and most direct connection to =
what we do. Our episodes basically automatically go out as Notes posts. Peo=
ple can find it, and it becomes another means of discoverability.&#8221;</s=
pan></p><p style=3D"color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;=
margin: 8px 0;"><strong>Biz on their between-episodes newsletter offering: =
</strong><span>&#8220;&#8202;People really like to know what you&#8217;re u=
p to. Our podcast takes a lot of work to make, but people in the community =
love to know what book you&#8217;re reading or a song you really like. [A c=
ompanion newsletter] is a really nice way to create something regular for y=
our audience that&#8217;s not so intensive.&#8221;</span></p><p style=3D"co=
lor: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;margin: 8px 0;"><stron=
g>Richard on why community converts: </strong><span>&#8220;People are payin=
g for you to keep doing this because they understand that you have this oth=
er thing that takes so much time, effort, energy. It helps us to know that =
we&#8217;re being supported by a like-minded community of people. And frank=
ly, I think if CBS had a subscription for $10 a month, I don&#8217;t know i=
f people would want to pay for that. But people do want to pay for [me] and=
 Alex [Kirshner] at $10 a month because it is a touchstone. And they know w=
here [the money is] going. And I think that&#8217;s really important.&#8221=
;</span></p><p style=3D"color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 1=
6px;margin: 8px 0;"><strong>Biz on world-building around a show:</strong><s=
pan> &#8220;You want to make a universe. The word &#8216;alumni&#8217; is i=
n [our name], so we ended up making this fake university called the Nymphet=
 Alumni Institute of Continuing Education on Fashion and Culture. And then =
all of our tiers would be like &#8216;PhD in Beauty Pseudoscience.&#8217; &=
#8202;And then our written weekly newsletter is called Course Materials, an=
d it&#8217;s like a bibliography of everything we&#8217;re consuming that w=
eek. I think [Substack] can be a place to make a fantastic world that is re=
ally fun. I think it&#8217;s really gratifying as a creator as well.&#8221;=
 </span></p></div><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-=
height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Podcast success is often built on intimacy&#=
8212;the sense that someone is talking to you specifically, that you&#8217;=
re in on something special. Regardless of how you set up your community, Su=
bstack is where that feeling finds a home, and where built-in engagement to=
ols and network growth make sure more people find it.</p><div class=3D"pull=
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ext-align: center"><em><span>The Signal Awards recognize podcasts that defi=
ne culture. The early entry deadline for the 2026 awards is May 8. </span><=
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